Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S, New Android with 1.4 Ghz Processor Turbo & Reality Display Screen

Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S recently announced by the SE with a fast processor is 1.4 GHz and equipped with a 3D turbo Sweep so that we can capture stunning panoramas and 3D displays on the screen or HD tv. Xperia arc S is an upgraded version of the Xperia arc that has been circulated in April with a few more capabilities such as faster processors and has got the latest version of the software update as well as neo Xperia V that has been discussed previously.

Xperia arc S is one of the Android phones that have the most elegant design on the market besides the Xperia arc. Armed with an area of ​​4.2-inch touch screen FVGVA (480 x 852 pixels) is also included into the phone line with the best screen.



This phone is scheduled to be launched in October with 4.2-inch screen with LED technology with the Mobile Display Sony Bravia Reality Engine. Just like the arc Xperia, Xperia arc S has a 8.1 megapixel camera with all the usual features are on Android phones best with Exmor sensor R for mobile phones also exist in this. Not to forget there is also a service from Sony is Music Unlimited and digital streaming video content Unlmited remedy you need.



In addition, the phone has a thickness of only 8.7 mm with a weight reached 117 grams, a very thin phone with an amazing view display. Hp xperia arc S is also already using the latest Gingerbread Android OS 2.3.4.

Getting more About Ability Symbian Belle

Nokia has just announced the presence of a Belle Symbian operating system update that has been in his debut on three new models, the Nokia 600, 700 and 701. By Nokia, this system is an improved form of the Symbian Anna in particular and bring a better improvement for the overall Symbian OS.

This is a strategic part of Nokia to meet market demand with the planned Symbian mobile operating system is indeed not a priority for Nokia, because they are meeting market demand with their Symbian products before they are completely focused on Windows mobile phone.

"Symbian Belle provides the most competitive experiences, seamless and intuitive than Nokia Symbian over the years," claims Nokia via press release, which quoted the GSM Arena.
Significant changes brought by Symbian Belle is done to repair the homescreen interface. Homescreen on Symbian Belle is now composed of six panels with five different sizes. Widget can be resized, which gives you flexibility. In addition to the main menu page is now flat, so it can roll vertically and all the application shortcuts placed on the same screen there is no folder again.

Another big change is the pull down menu for a notification from the screen of the running applications. We're guessing that Nokia has decided to copy the notification area of ​​Android is much like Apple and Samsung. This menu will also offer a turn off to control the mobile data, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Silent mode

Lockscreen Belle has been updated - new version lets you add color wallpapers and missed calls. Belle also includes a new application from Microsoft - Lync (IM for business, such as Microsoft Communicator), SharePoint, OneNote, PowerPoint Exchange ActiveSync and Broadcaster.

Samsung Sells 3 Million Galaxy S II Phones Worldwide

That’s right! Samsung has sold 3 million Galaxy S II units globally. The company is currently selling one Galaxy S II every 1.5 seconds and has managed to achieve this milestone in just 55 days. The global goal is to sell 10 million Galaxy S II units this year.

Amazon UK To Launch BlackBerry Bold 9900 (Black) On September 15th

Amazon UK is set to launch the all new BlackBerry Bold 9900 (Black) via its online store starting on September 15th. The handset will retail for 549.99 GBP (about $880). Meanwhile, the white version of the BlackBerry Bold 9900 will be released by Amazon UK on October 15th for the same price.

Nokia 700 Zeta Unveiled

Word has it that Nokia will launch a new cell phone that runs on the Symbian Belle OS. The upcoming Nokia 700 Zeta comes jam packed with a 3.2-inch AMOLED screen, NFC, and a 1GHz processor. Too bad, there is no info on pricing or availability at this moment. Stay tuned for more updates.

Lenovo S1 Music Phone

Check out this newly introduced music phone from Lenovo, the S1. Coming in black, white, peach pink, apple green and lemon yellow interchangeable rear covers, the handset sports a 3.61-inch WVGA display, a 1GHz Qualcomm QSD 8250 processor, a 512MB RAM, an 8GB of storage, a 5.0MP rear facing camera, 720p HD video playback support and runs on Android 2.2 Froyo OS. Pricing info is still unknown at the moment.

LG Optimus White Edition Launched In The Netherlands

The white version of LG Optimus Black is now available for purchase in the Netherlands via Sizz mobile operator. Called the LG Optimus White Edition, the handset is being offered for free on various plans, and customers even get a 60 Euro voucher. Just like the LG Optimus Black, the Optimus White also comes with a 4-inch WVGA Nova display, a 1GHz single-core processor, a 2GB of storage, a 2MP front-facing camera, a 5MP rear-facing camera, GPS, HSDPA, WiFi and runs on Android 2.2 OS.

LG Genesis Review

The unique LG Genesis, a clamshell Android smartphone, will be headed to U.S. Cellular in June. The Genesis features Android 2.2 Froyo and two touchscreens.

The outside of the Genesis features a 3.5-inch touchscreen and four buttons for menu, home, back, and search. When the Genesis is flipped open, a landscape QWERTY keyboard and 3.2-inch touchscreen are revealed. The back of the phone features a 5 megapixel camera, and the Genesis supports up to 32GB microSD cards.

The Genesis will be available from U.S. Cellular on June 9 for $149.99 after a mail-in rebate and with a new two-year agreement.

New Nokia C2-03 & C2-06 Dual SIM, Nokia C2-02 Single Sim Mobile Touch and Type Three New Affordable Price

Finally Nokia C2-02 and Nokia C2-03 was promulgated in which Nokia C2-02 is an S40 phone with resistive touch screen features QVGA resolution, 2-megapixel camera and 10MB internal memory expandable to 32 GB via microSD card. While Nokia C2-03 also has the same specifications and shape with Nokia C2-02. Nokia C2-02 is identical to the Nokia C2-03dalam form and specifications only Nokia C2-02 does not support dual SIM Card. The difference with the Nokia C2-06 is positioned layers glossy alias phone look more stylish and shiny.

But Nokia C2-03, and Nokia C2-06 brings new advantages because it offers Easy Swap technology where we can change the SIM card without turning the phone off or remove the battery. There are also features personalization berdasari SIM Card that can accommodate up to 5 SIM card with its own look and feel.




Standby time is said to last up to 400 hours, with up to five hours of talk time, while the music playing time last up to 35 hours.

Nokia C2-02 and C2-03 is estimated to 105 USD or 800 thousand dollars more, while the price of the Nokia C2-06 is 112 USD or 50 thousand dollars only difference is more expensive.

Nokia C2-02, C2-03 Specifications (Nokia C2-06 also seems exactly the same):

2.6″ touch screen resolusi 240x320ox, 65k colors
Customisable left and right swipe gesture shortcuts on home screen
Slide-out keypad
Physical keys (call key, end/power key, lock key, volume keys, camera key)
Possibility to use stylus
Handwriting recognition for Chinese

GPRS/EDGE rel-6, class B, multi-slot class
12 (2.5/2.75G)

Series 40
Touch and Type user interface
Java MIDP 2.1
Flash Lite
OMA DRM 1.0, WM DRM 10

GSM/EDGE 900/1800
GSM/EDGE 850/1900

Internal memory: 10 MB
MicroSD memory card slot, hot swappable, up to 32 GB
2 GB microSD memory card included

Bluetooth 2.1
2 mm charging connector
Micro USB connector
3.5 mm audio connector

Motorola Photon 4G Review and Specs

Motorola Photon 4G is a touchscreen phone at a suitable Price cost in India. Motorola Photon 4G is excellent in terms of looks, style and performance. The phone is packed with many useful features like 8.0MP camera with TFT capacitive screen with 16M colors. It offers a internal memory and External memory Up to 32GB to store your valuable data. You can enjoy with your favourite music with its MP3, MP4 music player, speaker and video player. 3G and Bluetooth connectivity is also there to serve you with wireless data sharing. The phone runs on Android OS, 1GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 AP20H Dual Core processor. Know more on Motorola Photon 4G Price, technical review, features and specifications.

Motorola Photon 4G Specifications

Launch – Q3, 2011

Camera & Display

Camera – 8.0 Mega Pixels, Resolution 3264×2448 Pixels, Video, Geo tagging, Image stabilization, Autofocus, Face Detection, Dual LED Flash, VGA Secondary camera
Screen Display – 4.3 inches, Resolution 540×960 Pixels
Color – TFT resistive touchScreen with 16M colors

Special Features

Accelerometer sensor for User Interface auto-rotate
Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
Multi-touch input method
SNS Integration
Touch-sensitive controls
Digital Compass
Built-in kickstand
HDMI Port
Adobe Flash 10.1
Document viewer
Organizer
Photo viewer & editor
Voice memo, Dial & Commands
Audio, Video Recorder & Playback
MP3, MP4 Player
MP3, WAV Ring tones, Vibration
3.5 mm Headphone Jack
Downloadable Games
Speaker Phone

Message Support

SMS, MMS, Email, Push Email
Instant Messaging
Predictive Text Input

Connectivity

Connectivity Options – Bluetooth v2.1, Micro USB v2.0, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, GPS
Data Modes – 3G, HTML Internet Browsing

Memory

Internal Memory – 2GB ROM, 1GB RAM, 16GB storage
Expandable Memory- 32 GB Micro/SD Card slot
Phone Book – Unlimited Contacts with Photo call
Call Records – Unlimited

Battery Power

1700 mAh Li-Ion Standard Battery
Battery Life – N/A
Battery Talk Time – 2G: 10 hours, 3G: 9 hours

Mobile Size and Looks

Size – 126.9 x 66.9 x 12.2 mm
Weight – 158 grams
Body Colors – Black

Sony Ericsson announces Xperia Active and Xperia Ray

Sony Ericsson has just announced a pair of new Android smartphone, each with different characteristics. The first, called the Xperia Active is designed for the needs of outdoor sporty, while the second named Xperia Rray that promises high style and classy look.

Active Xperia strong and built to handle exposure to dust and water. With a tiny 3-inch touch screen that antigores and made ​​still can work even with a wet finger touch. Another feature aimed at the needs of sport are heart rate monitors, sports training applications associated with the internal GPS, barometer and compass.


Active Xperia powered by proseso 1 GHZ, with the Android operating system 2.3 and 5 megapixel camera Gingerbread.

Xperia lampisan Ray comes with an impressive 0.37 inches thick aluminum. Incorporated with 1 GHz processor, operating system Android 2.3 Gingerbread. 3.3-inch touchscreen, 8 megapixel camera

According laptopmag.com Both smartphones android operating in GSM / HSDPA is intended for European and Asian markets, there may not be available for the U.S. market. Unfortunately there is no detail information about prices and time availability.

Nokia N9 Meego Review and Specs

Nokia has officially announced the Nokia N9 Meego its latest smartphone which is a smart phone full touchscreen keyboard alias without physical or buttons.

This phone is designed to efficiently utilize the touch of a finger and swipe (slide) so there is no physical button to return function to the home or back normally found on other touch screen phones like the Android phones in general. Indeed display User Interface Nokia N9 especially glance home screen icon-icon is similar to the Symbian Anna so in our previous article is still not known for sure whether the Nokia N9 using Meego or Anna.


Besides Meego, Nokia N9 also support NFC (Near Field Communication) which is again a hot technology these days that enable mobile payment as well as games that support NFC. Nokia N9 specification that is currently known is the screen size of 3.9-inch AMOLED type that supports a resolution of 480 × 854 screen with a surface that is not common because of the curve rather mencembung. You can see that on this phone Nokia like to present the concept of a new experience in using smartphones to rely on swipe as the primary means of navigation is the Nokia N9.

In actual hardware specifications of the Nokia N90 is not something that is great because a lot of other smartphones that are more sophisticated but it does speak Meego operating system 1.2 and the concept to a full touchscreen smartphone is trying to be presented by Nokia N9 is to provide something different than other smartphones bejibun amount .

When Nokia N9 available, when to enter Indonesia and Nokia N9 currently unknown.

Specifications Nokia N9:

Meego OS 1.2 Harmattan
Pentaband WCDMA 850, 900, 1900, 1700, 2100, Quad band GSM / EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
HSDPA Cat10: 14.4Mbps, HSUPA: Cat6 5.76Mbps
3.9-inch AMOLED screen, Gorilla curved glass, no air gap, anti-glare polarizer
480x854px resolution
1GHz processor OMAP 3630 with PowerVR SGX530 for graphics
Cal Zeiss autofocus camera 8mp
720p HD video recording
1GB RAM
WiFi a / b / g / n
GPS and A-GPS
Bluetooth 4.0
16GB or 64GB for storage
Talk time (GSM / WCDMA) up to 11 h / up to 7 hours
Standby time: Up to 450 hours (WCDMA), up to 380 hours (GSM)
Video playback (720p): up to 4.5 hours
Music playback: up to 50 hours
size 116.45 x 61.2 x 7.6-12.1mm
Audio: MP3 player, Audio jack: 3.5mm,
Supported codecs: mp3, AAC, AAC +, eAAC +, WMA, FLAC.

LG GW525, GT505 and GM730 phones review and price unveiled in India

With a view to enhance the communicating experience for Indian phone users, LG outs three new handsets namely GW525, GT505 and GM730. The phones are said to exhibit advanced functionalities.

Replicating mini computers, all three handsets flaunt powerful processors, ample of memory, easy operating systems and several services for social networking butterflies. These handsets deliver faster user experience with touch-enabled, user-friendly interface. With several options to simply social networking, it also offers business operation tools.

“The new range offers seamless and unrivalled mobile experience making them an extremely convenient device. We are positive that these new offerings will function as a complete professional as well as personal organize and play a pivotal role in growing the mobile handset category in the coming months .” said Anil Arora, Business Group Marketing Head, LGEIL.

Let’s look at the phones one by one,

LG GW525: This phone has been conceived for messaging on the move, whether it’s social networks, email, SMS or IM. The device adorns a 2.8-inch full touchscreen alongside a side-slide QWERTY keypad. One of its highlights is the LiveSquare feature that enables users’ friends to appear as animated characters on the homescreen. Users can further strengthen their social circle with this handset and also choose from four vibrant colors.

LG GT505: The GT505 supposedly makes an ideal navigation device. Along with social networking services like the ones incorporated in the GW525, the LG GT505 boasts of a 3-inch touchscreen and GPS functions. Attributes like 30-day free trial of Wisepilot, turn-by-turn navigation with voice instruction, and 2D/3D mapping elevate its navigation ability. Users can also opt for a full subscription. WiFi and HSDPA 3.6 bring in faster internet connection while the 5.0 MP camera helps capture all those precious memories to be instantly shared through social networks.

LG GM 730: With ease-of-use, the GM 730 is built around a 3D cube layout. Featuring the S-class UI alongside the Windows Mobile combination further add to the convenience. Sending and receiving messages require fewer key presses compared to the regular smartphones. On the multimedia front, the device’s spec sheet reveals 5 megapixel camera, MP3 player and several action-packed games. Sporting a sleek form factor with rounded edges, it is mere 11.9 mm thick with an exquisite chrome band.

These LG handsets- GW525, GT505 and GM730 carry a price tag of Rs. 13,990, Rs. 14,990 and Rs. 22,490 respectively. (source)

Motorola Droid X2 Now Available from Verizon Wireless

Verizon Wireless today started selling the Motorola Droid X2 Android smartphone through its online store.

If you can't wait until May 26, when it becomes available in retail stores, Verizon Wireless today started selling the Motorola Droid X2 through itsonline store . The Android smartphone costs $200 with a new two-year contract. It requires a Wireless Nationwide Talk plan and a smartphone data package.

Motorola Droid X2 While the Droid X2 (specs) currently runs Android 2.2, Verizon says that it'll be updated to Android 2.3. This phone is the carrier's first dual-core 1GHz smartphone, and basically challenges the recently released Motorola ATRIX 4G for AT&T and LG G2x for T-Mobile.

Here's what you can expect from the Droid X2's key capabilities:

Double the Power. Double the Does

Double your hustle with the dual-core 1GHz processor. Feast your content-hungry eyes on 26% sharper definition than Droid X. Use 1080p Mirror Mode via HDMI for video playback and surf, view pictures, play games and more on your HDTV or monitor.

Own the Web

The dual-core 1GHz processor lets you fly through the Web at warp speeds while Adobe Flash 10 lets you devour rich content and video. Want a bigger screen? Mirror Mode via HDMI shows your phone's display on your HDTV and lets you browse from your couch.

4.3" qHD Clarity

A brilliant 4.3", qHD screen, delivers 26% more pixels than Droid X for incredibly razor-sharp resolution. Reduce glare on your screen and enjoy richer colors with the dual-layer anti-reflective coating, plus keep your screen protected with the scratch- and impact-resistant display!

Command Your Media

Capture action with an 8MP camera, and enjoy 44% faster shot-to-shot times than Droid X thanks to continuous auto-focus. Command your images like puppets on a string by aggregating Web photo albums in one application. Plus, shoot video in crystal clear clarity with 720p HD video capture.

Additional Features

Beyond the obvious high-end hardware (despite lacking 4G LTE connectivity, something the Motorola Droid Bionic will offer later this year), the Droid X2 is enterprise-ready with security and IT-grade policies. This allows you to use your Droid X2 for work and play.

The Droid X2 also supports Google Mobile services, including Gmail, YouTube, Google Talk, Google Search and Google Maps, as well as access to more than 200,000 downloadable apps, games and widgets from Android Market. The phone's virtual QWERTY keyboard features Swype for quicker and easier typing.

Lastly, Motorola and Verizon have equipped the Droid X2 with a new Gallery app that allows you to view, tag and post photos on sites like Flickr and Facebook, all from one place. (source)

Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro 4.2-inch Smartphone with Android 2.3 Gingerbread

Sony Ericsson has announced a new Android powered smartphone called as Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro which runs on Android 2.3 Gingerbread operating system. Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro comes with many more interesting features like 4.2-inch multi-touch reality display with resolution of 854 x 480 pixels, an 8.1 megapixel camera with Sony Exmor R, 3.5 mm audio jack, stereo FM Radio etc.

The upcoming Android powered smartphone of boasts a 1GHz Qualcomm processor, Adreno 205 GPU, and has 720p video recording capacity. Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro has built-in Mobile TV functionality paired with Mobile wallet and Mobile BRAVIA Engine.

Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro Smartphone Features 4.2-inch multi-touch reality display with resolution of 854 x 480 pixels, An 8.1 megapixel camera with Sony Exmor R, 720p videorecording capacity, Boasts a 1GHz Qualcomm processor & Adreno 205 GPU, Built-in Mobile TV functionality, Equipped with A-GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA & WiFi connectivity options, Paired with Mobile wallet & Mobile BRAVIA Engine, Runs Android 2.3 Gingerbread operating system, Internal memory of 512MB, Supports up to 32GB expandable memory, 8GB included memory, Powered by a 1500mAh battery, 3.5 mm audio jack & stereo FM Radio, HDMI & Infrared port.

The Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro Smartphone is equipped with various types of connectivity options like A-GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA, and WiFi respectively. It has internal memory of 512MB and supports up to 32GB expandable memory along with comes included with 8GB memory.

Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro includes HDMI and infrared port. The Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro Smartphone will be available in Japan this Summer. But, unfortunately, its price is not yet announced.

Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro Smartphone Features and specs :

4.2-inch multi-touch reality display with resolution of 854 x 480 pixels
An 8.1 megapixel camera with Sony Exmor R
720p video recording capacity
Boasts a 1GHz Qualcomm processor & Adreno 205 GPU
Built-in Mobile TV functionality
Equipped with A-GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA & WiFi connectivity options
Paired with Mobile wallet & Mobile BRAVIA Engine
Runs Android 2.3 Gingerbread operating system
Internal memory of 512MB
Supports up to 32GB expandable memory
8GB included memory
Powered by a 1500mAh battery
3.5 mm audio jack & stereo FM Radio
HDMI & Infrared port

Sony Ericsson w8 Walkman Android Phone Review and Specs

Great news for the people who love to use Sony Ericsson cell phones, that the company has launched its first Android phone in popular walkman series. The new Sony Ericsson W8is an android operating system based cell phone in walkman series. It means a great music experience in an android phone.

The W8 Walkmanis a 3G handset with walkman player. It comes with a 3.0 inches of TFT touchscreen display with Accelerometer sensor for UI auto-rotate. The cell phone has a 3.15 Megapixel camera with Geo-tagging and Video recording.

The cell phone has 600 MHz ARM 11 processor, Adreno 200 GPU and Qualcomm MSM7227 chipset. It has inbuilt 128 MB storage and it has also a microSD card slot to use memory cards up to 16GB. The phone has also a 168 MB RAM which boost the speed.

It is a GSM network based cell phone which works on GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 network. The Sony Ericsson W8 supports GPRS, EDGE and 3G for internet surfing. It has another connectivity features like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB.

The W8 gives a threaded view SMS feature with MMS, Email, Push email and IM. It supports Java technology. The phone has GPS, Digital compass, Walkman player, TrackID music recognition, Google Search, Maps, Gmail, YouTube, Calendar and Google Talk.

The W8 comes in three exciting colors Azure, Orange, and Red. It gives up to 23hours of music play after its battery becomes fully charged. [Article source]

Verizon Motorola Droid X2 smartphone makes official now

Finally, Motorola and Verizon Wireless US carrier today officially announced a new high-end smartphone, known as the Motorola Droid X2. This handset can be purchase online starts tomorrow for priced at $199.99 with a new 2-year contract. In Verizon stores, Droid X2 smartphone will be available from May 26th. The Motorola Droid X2 from Verizon has brings a 4.3-inch scratch-resistant and anti-reflective touchscreen display with qHD (960 x 540) resolution, an 8MP rear-facing camera with 720p video record and dual-LED flash, mobile hotspot capabilities, a HDMI output, FM radio, and a 1540 mAh battery.
Droid X2 is boasts a 1 GHz Tegra 2 SoC processor, 8GB of internal storage, an SD card slot (bundled with a 8GB card), and runs Android 2.2 (Froyo).

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Sprint HTC EVO 4G drops just $99

Possibly in new Sprint HTC Shift 4G smartphone, Amazon has decided drops price of Sprint HTC EVO 4G smartphone to $99.99 that previous price of $199. It is available in two colors of HTC EVO 4G - black and white.



Sprint HTC EVO 4G smartphone has features 4.3-inch capacitive touchscreen display, 8-megapixel auto-focus camera with dual LED flash and 720p HD quality video, 1GHz Snapdragon processor, Bluetooth 2.1, mobile hotspot functionality, and built-in kickstand for hands-free viewing.



This HTC handset has also ultra-fast 4G connectivity and serves also 3G data speeds (EVDO Rev A.).



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Sprint HTC EVO 4G drops just $99

Jawbone selects Yap Speech Cloud for Voice Messaging App

Yap announced today its selection by Jawbone to provide speech-to-text capabilities in its THOUGHTS iPhone application. THOUGHTS allows users to easily send quick voice messages to individuals and groups, without typing or calling. Additionally, for situations when a user may prefer to read a message, audio messages can be transcribed instantly into text. Jawbone THOUGHTS, with Yap’s speech recognition, is available now for download at the Apple iPhone App store.



Composing text messages can be awkward and tedious, particularly while multitasking or distracted. A simple message like ‘let’s get together for dinner tonight’ can require more than 40 keystrokes, taps and swipes. With THOUGHTS, users can conveniently speak their messages requiring drastically fewer keystrokes and less time than typing a text message.



Yap’s Speech Cloud provides fully automated, high accuracy speech recognition via a simple web services interface. Using this interface, Jawbone was able to quickly integrate Yap’s speech recognition into its THOUGHTS application with just a few lines of code. [http://www.desinformado.com]

Samsung C3750 slider phone in Germany review

New Samsung slider phone has posted on its Germany website. The handset is called the Samsung C3750.

It has brings a 2.4-inch TFT display with a resolution of 320 x 240 pixel, a 3.2MP camera, music player, 37MB memory, FM Radio, Bluetooth, microSD card slot, SOS and Fake call function.

Samsung C3750 slider phone is support quad-band GSM/EDGE. Its 800mAh battery is allowing up to 11 hours of talk time, up to 500 hours of standby mode. Dimensions of Samsung C3750 are 98 x 49 x 15 mm and weight 89 grams.

The pricing and availability on other market is unknown at moment.